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Old June 14th, 2008, 06:45 AM
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I hope this makes sense
I have been reading all the old post on hear,trying to put 2+2 together
I have found there are some can connect with the work environment,but everyone seems to be saying, they have had a lot of stress in their lives. The other thing i noticed was that some, have another member of Family, not always immediate, ie in-law, uncle. With PD which has to be stress full
Has any one got any comment's, even if it's to say I'm talking out of my rear end
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Old June 14th, 2008, 04:12 PM
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I hope this makes sense
I have been reading all the old post on hear,trying to put 2+2 together
I have found there are some can connect with the work environment,but everyone seems to be saying, they have had a lot of stress in their lives. The other thing i noticed was that some, have another member of Family, not always immediate, ie in-law, uncle. which has to be stress full
Has any one got any comment's, even if it's to say I'm talking out of my rear end
Heather, I agree that enviroment and stress are top on this list, however, I really didn't have any stress until I was diognosed with PD. When I told my doctor that I believed that the physical trauma I had experienced caused the PD, he just said that it was an interesting theory. I know my body and it was never the same after I was beaten up. For five years after that I kept telling the doctor that I felt like my muscels were failing on me and he just kept sending me to physical thearpy. It was the physical that finally told me I should insist on seeing a neurologist. The timing was just too coincidental not to have been the cause of the PD. Gail
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Old June 15th, 2008, 05:28 AM
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Gail I agree with you & You Heather
In my 1st 12 months of my job
I was held up in an Armed Robbery with a sawn off pump action shotgun by an escapee prisoner , 2 weeks later I had an 18 inch knife to my throat, then 4 car crashes/bumps every 2 weeks apart as a passenger.
I knew when I started having symptoms and upon being diagnosed the consultant Say's from the 1st signs I had, it is known to go back 5 yrs it is generally then when the cells started dying off. if I went back 5 years it was the 1st year I joined my profession.
I believe a succession of events prior to the stressful events made me susceptible to PD upon a traumatic event occuring.
That is my opinion but I'm open to a cure ! which would be 1st before an explanation
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Old June 15th, 2008, 07:35 AM
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Hi All,
I really do believe that stress is a big factor in parkinsons, but I don't know if it is the cause or if it simply magnifys the symptoms (can't think of a better way to put this).
Michael J Fox (is that what you call the actor who has and is involved in promoting research on parkinsons?) believes that parkinsons is caused by a virus and I am inclined to agree with him. Up until my father was 63 he ran full marathons and in order to do that he ran every single day of his life. Besides running he did exercises every morning. He was super fit for his age. The October before his 63rd birthday he was training for the Great North Run and took a chest infection. He wouldn't take antibiotics because that would have interfered with his training. A couple of months after the Great Norh Run he was diagnosed with eschemiac heart disease (don't know the proper spelling). It is believed that eschemiac heart disease can be caused by a virus going to the heart. Eschemiac heart disease is an irregular heart beat and although if it is not treated the sufferer can take a stroke, it doesn't usually show in the persons general health. I am able to trace back a general deterioration in my father's health from this date and so am inclined to believe that the same virus caused my father's parkinsons.
My mother died suddenly and on the morning of her death our gp called to the house to pay his respects and on that morning he told me that my father had parkinsons. Since my mother's death my father has gone down hill rapidly. I notice that if anything stressful happens it really effects his parkinsons. He just cannot handle stress at all. Before taking parkinsons my father was the most practical, level headed person, but since taking parkinsons he panics over nothing.
Well, sorry for rambling but you did ask for my thoughts! Also, thanks for giving me the opportunity to express them. That's the good thing about this forum, we get the opportunity to talk things through.
God bless
Geraldine
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Old June 15th, 2008, 08:24 AM
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i agree with everyone stress is not good when you have pd i get stressed at work if i have to go on a course especially by my self because it means walking into a room full of strangers who dont know i have pd i feel very akward and uncomfortable then my hand starts to tremor.
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Old June 15th, 2008, 08:41 AM
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Heather, I agree that enviroment and stress are top on this list, however, I really didn't have any stress until I was diognosed with PD. When I told my doctor that I believed that the physical trauma I had experienced caused the PD, he just said that it was an interesting theory. I know my body and it was never the same after I was beaten up. For five years after that I kept telling the doctor that I felt like my muscels were failing on me and he just kept sending me to physical thearpy. It was the physical that finally told me I should insist on seeing a neurologist. The timing was just too coincidental not to have been the cause of the PD. Gail
Hi Gail
I would have thought Trauma and stress would be linked together, and maybe we could add depression to it
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Old June 15th, 2008, 08:52 AM
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Hi All,
I really do believe that stress is a big factor in parkinsons, but I don't know if it is the cause or if it simply magnifys the symptoms (can't think of a better way to put this).
Michael J Fox (is that what you call the actor who has and is involved in promoting research on parkinsons?) believes that parkinsons is caused by a virus and I am inclined to agree with him. Up until my father was 63 he ran full marathons and in order to do that he ran every single day of his life. Besides running he did exercises every morning. He was super fit for his age. The October before his 63rd birthday he was training for the Great North Run and took a chest infection. He wouldn't take antibiotics because that would have interfered with his training. A couple of months after the Great Norh Run he was diagnosed with eschemiac heart disease (don't know the proper spelling). It is believed that eschemiac heart disease can be caused by a virus going to the heart. Eschemiac heart disease is an irregular heart beat and although if it is not treated the sufferer can take a stroke, it doesn't usually show in the persons general health. I am able to trace back a general deterioration in my father's health from this date and so am inclined to believe that the same virus caused my father's parkinsons.
My mother died suddenly and on the morning of her death our gp called to the house to pay his respects and on that morning he told me that my father had parkinsons. Since my mother's death my father has gone down hill rapidly. I notice that if anything stressful happens it really effects his parkinsons. He just cannot handle stress at all. Before taking parkinsons my father was the most practical, level headed person, but since taking parkinsons he panics over nothing.
Well, sorry for rambling but you did ask for my thoughts! Also, thanks for giving me the opportunity to express them. That's the good thing about this forum, we get the opportunity to talk things through.
God bless
Geraldine
Hi Geraldine
I remember about your dad running marathons
That is very, interesting,

so do you think, that at some time
Past or present , someone with PD could have had a virus ,that may have laid dome, till something very stressful happened like LTD -addition or Gail's trauma, or in dads case a present viruse , hope that makes sense

That is one of the good things about this site, no one judges , I always found it difficult with Dyslexia trying to express on paper what i want to say, but people on hear, read what is wrote, and take the time to understand what i mean/ trying to say/ask
Thank you all
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Always remember to forget the troubles that pass your way;
BUT NEVER forget the blessings that come each day.
Have a wonderful day with many *smiles*

Most people walk in and out of you life. But only friends will leave footprints in your heart.

"Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass...it's about learning how to dance in the rain."

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Old June 15th, 2008, 10:14 AM
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Gail I agree with you & You Heather
In my 1st 12 months of my job
I was held up in an Armed Robbery with a sawn off pump action shotgun by an escapee prisoner , 2 weeks later I had an 18 inch knife to my throat, then 4 car crashes/bumps every 2 weeks apart as a passenger.
I knew when I started having symptoms and upon being diagnosed the consultant Say's from the 1st signs I had, it is known to go back 5 yrs it is generally then when the cells started dying off. if I went back 5 years it was the 1st year I joined my profession.
I believe a succession of events prior to the stressful events made me susceptible to PD upon a traumatic event occuring.
That is my opinion but I'm open to a cure ! which would be 1st before an explanation
I agree, if they could come with a cure, it wouldn't matter why I had it.
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Old June 15th, 2008, 10:21 AM
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Hi Gail
I would have thought Trauma and stress would be linked together, and maybe we could add depression to it
Hi Heather, You could be right about that. I believe the trauma caused it and the stress aggrevates it.
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Old June 15th, 2008, 10:23 AM
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Hi Geraldine
I remember about your dad running marathons
That is very, interesting,

so do you think, that at some time
Past or present , someone with PD could have had a virus ,that may have laid dome, till something very stressful happened like LTD -addition or Gail's trauma, or in dads case a present viruse , hope that makes sense

That is one of the good things about this site, no one judges , I always found it difficult with Dyslexia trying to express on paper what i want to say, but people on hear, read what is wrote, and take the time to understand what i mean/ trying to say/ask
Thank you all
I had never heard the virus theory, but this makes a lot of sense.
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